Talk:Mount Adams (Washington)

Active or Not?

Does someone know if this is an active or dormant volcano, and could you please update the summary with that information? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.219.22.88 (talk) 19:38, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Other Mount Adams

While the Mt. Adams in Washington state is probably the most well known, the USGS GNIS lists 7 mountains with this name:

    Name       State   County
------------   -----   ------
Adams, Mount 	CO 	Grand 		summit 	400512N 1054356W  Monarch Lake
Adams, Mount 	CO 	Saguache 	summit 	380027N 1053615W  Horn Peak
Adams, Mount 	MT 	Flathead 	summit 	481455N 1134238W  Felix Peak
Adams, Mount 	NH 	Coos 		summit 	441913N 0711729W  Mount Washington
Adams, Mount 	NY 	Essex 		summit 	440512N 0740134W  Mount Adams
Adams, Mount 	OH 	Hamilton 	summit 	390627N 0842957W  Newport
Adams, Mount 	WA 	Yakima 		summit 	461210N 1212922W  Mount Adams East

I also checked NTS (Canada), and it lists 3 mountains with this name (two in B.C., one in NB).

How do we want to go about the process of disambiguation. Two options are:

• Mount Adams becomes the disambiguation page and what is currently here is moved to Mount Adams (Washington).
• create Mount Adams (disambiguation) listing all seven mountains but keeping the one in Washingston at Mount Adams.

It's probably best to go with the first option as it might seem to some of giving preferential treatment if we stick with the second option. The number of existing links is currently small so changing them won't take long.

RedWolf 21:09, Jun 14, 2004 (UTC)

Wikipedia disambiguation policy suggests that if one of the usages is much more common than the others, it should be the main page and the others are listed on the disambiguation page. If there is no predominant usage, they should be equally listed. So, at Google, I tried the following searches, with the number of results:

"Mount Adams" Washington 21,100 hits

"Mount Adams" Ohio 8,650 hits

"Mount Adams" "New York" 5,080 hits

"Mount Adams" Colorado 3,330 hits

"Mount Adams" Montana 2,680 hits

"Mount Adams" New Hampshire 1,890 hits

Not sure which provinces the "Mount Adams" in Canada are, otherwise I would do the search.

I admit that the 2.43:1 ratio between the Washington and Ohio usages is marginal to claim that Washington predominates. And even more telling, all of the non-Washington usages sum to 21,630, more than the Washington usage.

Bottom line --- as much I as like Mount Adams in Washington, I think you are right and we should make this a disambiguation page, with the current page moved to Mount Adams (Washington). -- hike395 03:07, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Sound fine by me so long as all links here are fixed. --mav 06:35, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I know this discussion happened a over a year ago, but it seemed to me that the conclusion reached was to make Mount Adams the disambig page and Mount Adams (Washington) the washington mountain's page. As the links above show, that didn't turn out to be the case. Why is that? Was it discussed elsewhere and simply decided against? Or was it decided that the ratio was high enough?jfg284 19:46, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Oops, I guess we talked about it and never did anything. I think it may require an admin (like mav or RedWolf) to do the move without losing page history. I'm still in favor of it. -- hike395 21:42, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Mount Adams coordinates

There is a major problem with the coordinates given in the info-box on the side of the Mount Adams (Washington) page. They don't match any of the USGS coordinates for any Mount Adams, and they put Mount Adams almost 400 miles from Mount Saint Helens instead of about 35 miles away. I don't know how the info-box gets edited, but someone please do something about it!

Lee Thompson Hillsboro, Oregon Lnthomp 18:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

My Google Earth says that given coordinates match exactly with "Lassen Volcanic Centre" in state of California! Google Earth also references Simthsonian who says Mount Adams in Washington is 46.206"N, 121.490"W. I've translated that to 46°12'21" N 121°29'23" W and will put that in the infobox. Shinhan 17:34, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

The National Geodetic Survey is the most accurate, up-to-date source of location data for benchmarks. I've included the NGS datasheet, as evidence, below. I'm changing the infobox to use these coordinates. -- hike395 00:29, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

DATABASE = Sybase ,PROGRAM = datasheet, VERSION = 7.37
1        National Geodetic Survey,   Retrieval Date = AUGUST 12, 2006
SB1004 ***********************************************************************
SB1004  DESIGNATION -  MOUNT ADAMS
SB1004  PID         -  SB1004
SB1004  STATE/COUNTY-  WA/YAKIMA
SB1004  USGS QUAD   -  MOUNT ADAMS EAST (1970)
SB1004
SB1004                         *CURRENT SURVEY CONTROL
SB1004  ___________________________________________________________________
SB1004* NAD 83(1991)-  46 12 08.68245(N)    121 29 27.22091(W)     ADJUSTED  
SB1004* NAVD 88     -      3743.4    (meters)   12281.     (feet)  VERTCON   
SB1004  ___________________________________________________________________
SB1004  LAPLACE CORR-          -5.90  (seconds)                    DEFLEC99
SB1004  GEOID HEIGHT-         -19.32  (meters)                     GEOID03
SB1004
SB1004  HORZ ORDER  -  SECOND
SB1004
SB1004.The horizontal coordinates were established by classical geodetic methods
SB1004.and adjusted by the National Geodetic Survey in December 1991..
SB1004
SB1004.The NAVD 88 height was computed by applying the VERTCON shift value to
SB1004.the NGVD 29 height (displayed under SUPERSEDED SURVEY CONTROL.)
SB1004
SB1004.The Laplace correction was computed from DEFLEC99 derived deflections.
SB1004
SB1004.The geoid height was determined by GEOID03.
SB1004
SB1004;                    North         East     Units Scale Factor Converg.
SB1004;SPC WA S     -    97,078.020   423,529.247   MT  0.99993678   -0 43 11.2
SB1004;SPC WA S     -   318,496.80  1,389,528.87   sFT  0.99993678   -0 43 11.2
SB1004;UTM  10      - 5,117,644.051   616,426.140   MT  0.99976663   +1 05 21.8
SB1004
SB1004!             -  Elev Factor  x  Scale Factor =   Combined Factor
SB1004!SPC WA S     -   0.99941654  x   0.99993678  =   0.99935336
SB1004!UTM  10      -   0.99941654  x   0.99976663  =   0.99918331
SB1004
SB1004:                Primary Azimuth Mark                     Grid Az
SB1004:SPC WA S     -  SIGNAL PEAK                              084 50 43.8
SB1004:UTM  10      -  SIGNAL PEAK                              083 02 10.8
SB1004
SB1004|---------------------------------------------------------------------
SB1004| PID    Reference Object                     Distance      Geod. Az  |
SB1004|                                                           dddmmss.s |
SB1004| SB0990 SIGNAL PEAK                         APPROX.27.4 KM 0840732.6 |
SB1004| CF3801 MOUNT ADAMS RM 2                     23.942 METERS 09419     |
SB1004| CF3800 MOUNT ADAMS RM 1                     15.500 METERS 20619     |
SB1004|---------------------------------------------------------------------
SB1004
SB1004                          SUPERSEDED SURVEY CONTROL
SB1004
SB1004  NAD 83(1991)-  46 12 08.68560(N)    121 29 27.21973(W) AD(       ) 2
SB1004  NAD 83(1986)-  46 12 08.69848(N)    121 29 27.20593(W) AD(       ) 2
SB1004  NAD 27      -  46 12 09.25992(N)    121 29 22.90456(W) AD(       ) 2
SB1004  NGVD 29 (07/19/86) 3741.7    (m)        12276.     (f) VERT ANG       
SB1004
SB1004.Superseded values are not recommended for survey control.
SB1004.NGS no longer adjusts projects to the NAD 27 or NGVD 29 datums.
SB1004.See file dsdata.txt to determine how the superseded data were derived.
SB1004
SB1004_U.S. NATIONAL GRID SPATIAL ADDRESS: 10TFS1642617644(NAD 83)
SB1004_MARKER: DD = SURVEY DISK
SB1004_SETTING: 15 = METAL ROD DRIVEN INTO GROUND. SEE TEXT FOR ADDITIONAL
SB1004+WITH SETTING: INFORMATION.
SB1004_SP_SET: PREFABRICATED CONCRETE POST
SB1004
SB1004  HISTORY     - Date     Condition        Report By
SB1004  HISTORY     - 1970     MONUMENTED       USGS
SB1004
SB1004                          STATION DESCRIPTION
SB1004
SB1004'DESCRIBED BY US GEOLOGICAL SURVEY 1970
SB1004'RM 1 TO RM 2 NOT MEASURED.
SB1004'
SB1004'LOCATED ABOUT 55 MI WSW. OF YAKIMA, WASH.  35 MI N. OF THE COLUMBIA
SB1004'RIVER.  ON THE HIGHEST POINT OF MT. ADAMS.  ABOUT 600 FT E. OF OLD
SB1004'ABANDONED LOOKOUT HOUSE.  IN APPROXIMATE CENTER OF LARGE FLAT
SB1004'AREA.
SB1004'
SB1004'REACHED BY HELICOPTER.  BEST ROUTE BY FOOT IS FROM TIMBERLINE CAMP
SB1004'ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN.  ABOUT A 6 HOUR PACK.
SB1004'
SB1004'STATION MARK--A STANDARD TABLET STAMPED MOUNT ADAMS 1970 CRIMPED ONTO
SB1004'A 15 INCH LENGTH OF 5/8 INCH COPPERWELD ROD CEMENTED IN A DRILL HOLE
SB1004'IN A 1-1/2 X 2 FT BOULDER IN PLACE, PROJECTING ABOUT 0.5 FT ABOVE
SB1004'GROUND.
SB1004'
SB1004'REFERENCE MARK NO. 1--A STANDARD REFERENCE MARK TABLET STAMPED NO 1
SB1004'1970 CRIMPED ONTO A 18 INCH LENGTH OF 5/8 INCH COPPERWELD ROD
SB1004'CEMENTED IN A DRILL HOLE IN A 1-1/2 X 1-1/2 FT BOULDER IN PLACE,
SB1004'PROJECTING ABOUT 0.6 FT ABOVE GROUND AND 4.3 FT LOWER THAN STATION
SB1004'MARK.
SB1004'
SB1004'REFERENCE MARK NO. 2--A STANDARD REFERENCE MARK TABLET STAMPED
SB1004'NO 2 1970 CRIMPED ONTO A 18 INCH LENGTH OF 5/8 INCH COPPERWELD ROD
SB1004'CEMENTED IN A DRILL HOLE IN A 2 X 1-1/2 FT BLACK BOULDER IN PLACE,
SB1004'PROJECTING ABOUT 1.2 FT ABOVE GROUND AND 3.9 FT LOWER THAN STATION
SB1004'MARK.

*** retrieval complete.
Elapsed Time = 00:00:01

Thats an impressive evidence. Thank you. Shinhan 04:39, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Mount Adams (Washington)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

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This article is in decent shape, but it needs more work before it becomes a Good Article.

1. Is it well written?

   A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

   In the History section, "When La-wa-la-clough chose Pahto, Wyeast struck his brother so hard that Pahto's head was flattened and Wyeast took La-wa-la-clough from him (thus attempting to explain Adams' squat appearance)", "so" necessarily isn't needed, since it makes the sentence a little strange with it.

    Done --Meldshal [discuss] {contribs} 17:20, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

   Check. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 17:46, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

   B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:

   In the History section, it would be best to add (USGS) after "United States Geological Survey", I mean I know what it is, but how 'bout the person that reads this article. In the Geology section, it would be best if "Glacier" is linked once, per here.

   Already done. This was already done. --Meldshal [discuss] {contribs} 17:36, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

   Check. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 17:46, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

2. Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?

   A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

   References 17, 18, 19, and 20 are missing Publisher info. Also, Reference 13 needs to use the {{cite book}} template. One more thing, I would suggest adding "Fire Mountains of the West: The Cascade and Mono Lake Volcanoes" in a "Further reading" section, since it doesn't look well in the References section.

   Done. Thanks Burntnickel. --Meldshal [discuss] {contribs} 17:37, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

   Check. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 17:46, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

   B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):

   Are there any sources available for the Glaciers and Summit area sections? In the Geology section, is there a source for this ---> "Adams is made of several overlapping cones that together form an 18 mile (29 km) diameter base which is elongated in a north-south direction and covers an area of 250 mile² (650 km²). The volcano has a volume of 85 mile³ (350 km³) placing it second only to Mount Shasta in that category among the Cascade stratovolcanoes. Mount Adams was created by the subduction of the Juan de Fuca plate, which is located just off the coastline in the Pacific Northwest"?

   Hmmm, it seems the article has a few citation tags in the article. I think that's a problem. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 17:46, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

   Half-check. There's still tags in the article. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 18:10, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

   Check. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:47, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

   C. It contains no original research:

   D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

   B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):

4. Is it neutral?

   It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:

   In the History section, this ---> "He even wrote a book on the subject of exploring the volcanoes of the West Coast", sounds like POV.

   This should be re-written, a little. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 17:46, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

   What is wrong? --Meldshal [discuss] {contribs} 17:53, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

   "He even", sounds odd. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 18:10, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

   Was removed from the article. Check. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

5. Is it stable?

   It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:

6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   If the following statements can be answered, I will pass the article. Good luck with improving this article!

--  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:47, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

After reading the article, I have gone off and passed the article. Congratulations. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to a GA review. Thank you to Meldshal who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:47, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

mt adams

Mt. Adams has been around for a long time. It is located in Trout Lake Washington. Mt. Adams hasn’t erupted in over thirty-five thousand years. This volcano is often referred to as a stratovolcano (composite volcano). Stratovolcano is a tall, conical volcano composed of many layers of hardened lava, tephra, and volcanic ash. Mt. Adams is one of the largest volcanoes in the Cascade Range. Even though Mount Adams has been less active during the past few thousand years than neighboring Mounts St. Helens, Rainier, and Hood, it assuredly will erupt again. Future eruptions will probably occur more frequently from vents on the summit and upper flanks of Mount Adams than from vents scattered in the volcanic fields beyond. Adams is a member of the Cascade Volcanic Arc, one of the arc's largest volcanoes and is located in a remote wilderness approximately 31 miles (50 km) east of Mount St. Helens. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.255.81.64 (talk) 18:11, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't know what the sources were for the native legend, but my Junior High in Vancouver, Wash (many, many years back - it's now a Middle School or something) was called Wy'East - not Wyeast. Still, I don't know what the proper orthography really is. Khirad (talk) 19:05, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Copyedit

I worked on this article for quite a while. I tried to clarify sections that I found difficult to understand easily or read smoothly. If my edits lead to the mistreatment of facts I apologize. Basically I believe it is still a Good Article but I think someone with literary talent could improve it. I'd be glad to answer any questions about my edit. --DRoll (talk) 04:54, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Yea, as the primary contributor towards GA-wise, I'll try and copy edit it. I haven't looked over the text in ages. Ceranthor 19:22, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Wildlife

I just added a sentence about wildlife as that paragraph didn't actually refer to wildlife. There is a conference on Mt Adams in Nov 2011 about glacier loss in a warming climate. I will try to convince the scientists in attendance to add to this article or may do so myself otherwise. I will also create my own user account for that rather than do so anonymously as I did today. I put my email address in the log for the change I just made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.2.31.15 (talk) 15:19, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Very large re-work/expansion

Hello to all watchers of this article. I have worked up an enormous re-work/expansion of this article that would like input on. I reworked several sections, expanded other sections, and added a few new sections. I also corrected some inaccurate or outdated information. I took ideas from the various pages of the other Cascade mountains and incorporated them into my rework. All of the additional material I have incorporated has been taken from what I believe are reliable sources as I can personally vouch for a lot of the information they provide.

I would like your input on what you think I should do in terms of incorporating my rework into this article. You can view it here and leave a response on that talk page or on this one. (Ignore the page heading, I mistakenly forgot to rename it from the default.) It would be good if I could get as much input as possible.Nedst3r (talk) 08:18, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Extreme Temperature Change - Source?

Hi all,

While reading through the Mt Adams wiki page, the section on the Sulfur Mine had a fact that stood out to me as potentially inaccurate.

It states that there was a temperature swing of over 150°F! After doing some digging, at least according to another article on Wikipedia, it looks like the largest swing ever recorded in the US is around 100°F

"The largest recorded temperature change in one place over a 24-hour period occurred on January 15, 1972 in Loma, Montana, when the temperature rose from −54 to 49 °F (−47.8 to 9.4 °C)." - United States temperature extremes

Is there evidence for the 150°F swing on Mt. Adams? If so, that could potentially change this record! Otherwise, should that sentence be removed?

The source for this is listed within the paragraph. It is reference #99. The quote in the article referenced is on page 14 of the reference and says "[the] Highest recorded temperature was ll0° in the midday sun. Within twelve hours the all-time low of -48° was recorded as a sudden, biting storm came over the mountain's cap." Now, it doesn't specify if the temperature "in the midday sun" was taken properly (in the shade) or not, so it may need to be taken with a grain of salt. If the measurement was incorrect, it would not be surprising if the actual high was still as much as 80 °F, given the approximate lapse rate of 3.5 °F and the record high in Trout Lake of 108 °F, which would still potentially create a record breaking swing. However, NOAA would probably consider these recordings anecdotal and not an official record. Nedst3r (talk) 21:41, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

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