Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michal todd
Utter dreck. RickK 05:27, Aug 13, 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. It's simple vandalism. And let's try not to encourage similar efforts by preserving them forever on the bad joke page. - Nunh-huh 05:34, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- "Utter Dreck?" "Vandalism?" In whose eyes? What pompous statements! If it were left to you, we'd all be living in Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four.
- No, if it was up to me and within the rules of conduct here, your entries would have been deleted the moment your comment appeared since it put them into the category of intentional vandalism. We have a policy around here called "don't bite the newbie," but comments like the one you just left aren't going to endear you to anyone soon. You have a knack for writing, so why not take a closer look at other articles and try your hand at a real one yourself? - Lucky 6.9 06:12, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- "we'd all be living in Orwell's 1984" Well, unfortunately or not, it's 2004 and both articles are still completely unencyclopaedic hero-worshipping crap. Delete. Fire Star 06:26, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Orwell portrayed a department which wrote fiction as though it were history. I think that's the parallel here.
- Can you provide any sources or references for this information? As a lover of underground film, I'd dearly love these to be true so that we could clean them up and keep them. Rlandmann 06:42, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Overlong and rambling. I can't see any sources for this information. Even if they are verified and cleaned up, I feel they'd still be a delete. Incidentally, there was a one-hit wonder called Jazzy Dee who had a hit in 1983 with a track called 'Get on up'. Now utterly forgotten, and not notable. But still more notable than these articles. Average Earthman 10:44, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Delete: Also, btw, the prose is florid and vaccuous. It reads like either a parody of a potboiler or as an excerpt from one. Both articles sound like sketches for fiction. I have to agree with Lucky: this looks like a bad faith attempt. Geogre 13:31, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- NOT speedy deletion candidates, but delete if unverified. [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 13:35, 2004 Aug 13 (UTC)
- IMDB has never heard of Michael Todd or his movies. Delete these suspiciously similar biographies. DJ Clayworth 14:45, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Delete - I can't find information on either of these people to replace the current articles with more suitable stubs. - TB 14:53, Aug 13, 2004 (UTC)
- Delete both: pranks. I have to say Jazzy Dee is a masterpiece of the "Behind the Music" school of journalism (... and despite massive success and every advantage, he/she fell into an inescapable spiral of drugs and alcohol). Only web hits for "Justin Ditton" are for some guy in Australia, from which these articles originate; probably someone's having a laugh at his expense. Wile E. Heresiarch 15:52, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Delete both. Probable pranks, possibly real people but unverifiable. My friends in Ballina, a NSW town referred to in one of the articles, have never heard of either of them. Andrewa 21:41, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Delete Hayford Peirce 00:46, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Did any of you catch the fact that, excepting only that Michal todd is from Melbourne and Jazzy Dee is from Ballina, these articles are otherwise IDENTICAL? Deletable pranks, and speedy deletes, at that. Bearcat 10:26, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Ah, you got past the first two sentences, did you? Very brave. Fire Star 14:23, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- I had listed Jazzy Dee on Cleanup, the Michal todd came along and I added the VfD to it, which the user removed. When I re-aded it, I checked the user's contributions, which was when I found that he/she had created both articles. When I went to check on Jazzy Dee that was when I saw they were identical, which was when I listed both of them here. RickK 19:10, Aug 14, 2004 (UTC)
"Ah, you got past the first two sentences, did you? Very brave." I detect an air of elitism in the arena. I have placed this information on this forum because there is nothing on the web relating to this person. Heavens help us if we try to be pioneers.
- Greetings 203.191.175.140. I was making a jest at the expense of the florid prose of your article, and I should apologise. In my defence, it was a jest in aid of pointing out that the style of the article is very overdone for an encyclopaedia, hence the "two sentences" remark. In a press release such a tone would be perfectly at home, but the VfD peer review process is designed to not only remove hopelessly inappropriate articles but give editors who may be interested in fixing them some insight into what changes will satisfy all of us busy little English majors out here, help the article become more suitable for Wikipedia and, thereby, hopefully survive the VfD process. Regards, Fire Star 04:26, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)