Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter Crampton
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Vanity article, non-notable figure. Geogre 22:15, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Well, a member of the European Parliament seems potentially noteworthy, but there's almost no useful information on this page.
If there's really nothing significant that can be added then I'll agree it's deletable. Or if there's some sort of list of members of the European Parliament then perhaps redirect there. -R. fiend 23:49, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC) - Keep, parliamentarians are encyclopedic. - SimonP 00:12, Aug 16, 2004 (UTC)
- Keep, or else we'll also have to go through and dozens of articles on U.S. Congresspeople, Australian and Canadian MPs, and etc. Stubmark and cleanup as appropriate. [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 02:23, 2004 Aug 16 (UTC)
- Keep. Ambi 03:37, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- OK, keep, but still I would like to think this can be made more informative, or at least less trivial. SimonP's addition of the years served in Parliament were already a substantial improvement, but this stuff about where he had a summer internship to me seems pretty pointless. But then again I really don't think this article is worth much effort on anyone's part. -R. fiend 04:16, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Sure it can, and most likely will -- that's the way Wikipedia works. "It could be better" is not a reason to list a page on vfd. Oh, and keep, clearly. Jgm 06:54, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Keep the important bits (since he actually won an election to a reasonably significant body) - should also note which party (Labour I believe). The rubbish (i.e. everything but the first line at the moment) can be deleted. Average Earthman 09:56, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Comment: I strongly suspect this Peter Crampton and the former MEP Peter Crampton are not one and the same person. The MEP Peter Crampton was born in 1932 and I don't think European parliamentary pensions are that dire that he needs to take up a traineeship at a bank. Also note that the original poster seems to have deleted the MEP reference. I also added the vfd notice. --Ianb 17:09, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Delete, vanity. --Ianb 17:09, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- comment: I've nothing against an entry on the MEP though. --Ianb 18:12, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Yep. I was wondering who was hallucinating, me, when I nominated it, or the folks who were keeping it. When I nominated the article, it was a college kid's vanity. Then I saw that this was an MEP? I was stunned that the article didn't originally indicate that. I think your explanation, Ianb, is the best one. There is a kid now upset that we're making him an MEP and a MEP who hasn't needed an internship. We are, therefore, at a jam. We don't need to disambig a vanity article from the MEP. I suggest that we make a new MEP article by a different name, go ahead with deleting this, and not redirect, as there isn't much point in that. Or do redirect, but be prepared for our college friend to come back and change the MEP article some more to make it "accurate" to him. Geogre 17:18, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Comment: I notice, alas, that the MEP is known only as "Peter Crampton" anywhere I've looked, so we can't make him unique with his name and will have to try Peter Crampton, MEP or similar. I placed a "Disputed" tag on the (now back to vanity) article & left a comment on the talk page for our new user. Geogre 17:21, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- comment: how about Peter Duncan Crampton as listed here? --Ianb 18:12, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Comment: I notice, alas, that the MEP is known only as "Peter Crampton" anywhere I've looked, so we can't make him unique with his name and will have to try Peter Crampton, MEP or similar. I placed a "Disputed" tag on the (now back to vanity) article & left a comment on the talk page for our new user. Geogre 17:21, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Well that explains alot. I was wondering what the hell the deal was with these internships. Can't we just make this an article about the MEP, restoring that part and deleting everything about our college friend? That's basically what Average Earthman and I were suggesting, unbeknownst to us. Clearly it will be a substub, but the consensus has already established that MEP's are notable. If it gets reverted again I'm sure some admin will give him a warning, and a temporary ban if he persists. -R. fiend 17:39, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Delete - the article seems to be quite confused about which Peter
FramptonCrampton it's about. An article about the MEP would benefit from starting over. -- Cyrius|✎ 01:34, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC) - Delete the vanity. Keep the MEP. If theres not MEP info, then delete the article entirely. Stbalbach 02:17, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Keep with the MEP information only. If any other Peter Cramptons of minor notablity appear they can share the page. Any non-notable Peter Cramptons later added can be deleted from this page by any editor. Jallan 14:06, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Turn this into an article on MEP. Either by rewriting it or by deleting vanity article and creating a stub on MEP. Andris 11:50, Aug 20, 2004 (UTC)