Talk:Transliteration of Ancient Egyptian

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WikiProject Ancient Egypt to-do list:

Needed articles.

We should have an article on every pyramid and every nome in Ancient Egypt. I'm sure the rest of us can think of other articles we should have.

Cleanup.

To start with, most of the general history articles badly need attention. And I'm told that at least some of the dynasty articles need work. Any other candidates?

Standardize the Chronology.

A boring task, but the benefit of doing it is that you can set the dates !(e.g., why say Khufu lived 2589-2566? As long as you keep the length of his reign correct, or cite a respected source, you can date it 2590-2567 or 2585-2563)

Stub sorting

Anyone? I consider this probably the most unimportant of tasks on Wikipedia, but if you believe it needs to be done . . .

Data sorting.

This is a project I'd like to take on some day, & could be applied to more of Wikipedia than just Ancient Egypt. Take one of the standard authorities of history or culture -- Herotodus, the Elder Pliny, the writings of Breasted or Kenneth Kitchen, & see if you can't smoothly merge quotations or information into relevant articles. Probably a good exercise for someone who owns one of those impressive texts, yet can't get access to a research library.

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This article will be fleshed-out in the coming few days. I do, however, welcome comments and suggestions! —Nefertum17 18:43, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

This is looking good. I've recently been adding hieroglyphics to articles on Egyptian gods, goddesses and pharaohs. I've been using the Gardiner transliteration, as that seems to be used most often. I'm not sure whether all these articles are under the best possible name: for example, I think that 'Soker' is more usual than Seker, even though the name is skr. Once you're happy with this article, it might be an idea to link pages that mention Egyptian transliteration to it. Gareth Hughes 19:47, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I've basically finished and removed the "in-use" tag. Feel free to make changes or make any suggestions. —Nefertum17 21:13, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the effort you have put in here. I think the next stage would be to link this article to pages that discuss the difficulty of transcribing a particular name so as to direct the reader to the broader issues.

Do you have any suggestions regarding transliteration on the Wikipedia? I've simply ploughed ahead and used Gardiner, though I might give up ỉ for i. The next question is about how to render names pronouncable and recognisable. Obviously, we should not replace Ptah with Peteh, but the question remains as to whether we use Seker/Soker, Sopdet/Sepdet/Sothis, Ramesses/Ramses/Rameses &c. Gareth Hughes 23:38, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I think the Unicode characters have been approved? I'm not an advanced user of Unicode, nor am I an Egyptologist, so I don't feel confident in making a change to the article. I found the symbol in this page: [1]. Thatgirllisa (talk) 21:02, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unicode Hieroglyphs

I've added the corresponding newly-encoded Unicode characters for each hieroglyph on this page. At the moment, the only font supporting the Egyptian Hieroglyph range in Unicode is "Aegyptus". Wikilackey (talk) 02:37, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like a commercial or a documentary not an encyclopedia

Unnecessary text (or perhaps need to be rewritten?)

It should be emphasised that transliteration is not the same as transcription. Transcription seeks to reproduce the pronunciation of a text. For example, the name of the founder of the Twenty-second dynasty is transliterated as ššnq but transcribed Shoshenq in English, Chéchanq in French, Sjesjonk in Dutch, and Scheschonq in German.

As important as transliteration is to the field of Egyptology, there is no one single standard scheme in use for hieroglyphic and hieratic texts. Some might even argue that there are as many systems of transliteration as there are Egyptologists. However, there are a few closely related systems that can be regarded as conventional.

Also many parts of the text are un-sourced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.136.155.232 (talk) 21:48, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What about the lion and the rope?

I'm not an Egyptologist, but wasn't the lion E23 𓃭 rw sometimes used as a uniliteral 'l' , and the rope V4 𓍯 wꜣ as a uniliteral 'o', when foreign names were transcribed into the hieroglyphic? Examples that come to mind are the 'l' and 'o' in Ptolemy and Cleopatra. That's what I've always heard anyway, and the cartouches do look like that's what's going on. Or is this just a common misconception? 2601:49:C301:D810:3860:66DC:AD7A:E6B (talk) 22:46, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I know in MdC coding at least, the lion 𓃭 is used as a uniliteral for 'l', but I don't know about the rope 𓍯 and am not really confident enough about it to update the article. Andrew John Bayles (talk) 05:46, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Egyptian ayin" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Egyptian ayin. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 October 8#Egyptian ayin until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 13:57, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Ꜣ" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Ꜣ. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 October 8#Ꜣ until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 13:58, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merged content from Egyptian biliteral signs and Egyptian triliteral signs

Antiquistik (talk) 05:43, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support – this is very much the best organizational idea. Remsense诉 07:19, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why did biliteral and triliteral signs get removed from this article, despite being used to transliterate hieroglyphics all over Wikipedia?

It has made it very difficult decipher the transliteration of Egyptian names on Wikipedia now. 2001:7D0:87D5:C480:BE28:C362:DC3E:718B (talk) 20:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]