Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vijay Park
Deletion debate (initiated on April 11, 2004)
[edit]A 30-house condo. Justification (adapted from Template:VfD-KaasarVadavali) now moved to Talk:Kaasar Vadavali
- The strength of wikipedia is that each article is the work of several people (currently 5-6, on the average, it seems) who have edited it, plus dozens or thousands who have read and implicitly "approved" it. For the concept to work, the total number of articles in Wikipedia must be comparable to the number of users, times the average number of fixes that a random user will make. Also all pages should have a fair chance of being seen, at least by users who watch the "recent changes" page, or fetch pages at random.
- Presently these numbers are quite favorable, so that every page is as well-tended as a fungus blob in a healthy anthill. Now, if someone choose to dump into Wikipedia the list of all places — buildings, condos, streets, farms, etc. — with 5 or more people, the picture would change. Chances are that 99% of those pages would not be read by anyone who can tell whether they are correct. A large fraction of those pages could be bogus or vandalized without anyone noticing. Imagine the problem of disambiguating all those links, searching for a page with Google, etc.
- For these reasons, it seems necessary to have some size threshold for the inclusion of a place in Wikipedia, and to remove any place with less than X inhabitants — unless it has some attribute, historical or other wise, that could make it intersting to at least a few thousand readers over, say the next 10 years.
Jorge Stolfi 02:53, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)
PS. See additional discussion in Template:VfD-KaasarVadavali Talk:Kaasar Vadavali . Jorge Stolfi 19:59, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Everyking 03:06, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Keep all articles about real places. RickK 03:21, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. Andris 05:37, Apr 11, 2004 (UTC)
- delete, obscure. --Jiang
- Keep Bensaccount 15:13, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Merge with Kaasar Vadavali and redirect. If the latter is voted for deletion, delete both. Jay 18:21, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. See my comments in Template:VfD-KaasarVadavali. Cribcage 06:54, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. Non-informative. Mikkalai 19:37, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Delete: not informative and not significant. I agree with Jorge Stolfi. Wile E. Heresiarch 13:31, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- If this article is deleted, so should articles about places in USA with less than 500 people. Consider that this has been written by a person and not aggregated by a robot... so those robot pages should be deleted BEFORE this is deleted. I wrote this at a time when I thought I should write articles about all the things I can write about. Subsequently, I realised the difference between "can write" and "should write". Shouldn't this also apply to all the RAM-BOT pages. Haven't they been written simply because it is possible to write them? What is the claim to fame of McDonaldsville Township, Minnesota ? I can list hundreds more, I beleive --Hemanshu 06:30, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- The argument to include such entries presumably was completeness: imagine a random first-time reader who decides to test Wikipedia by asking about her hometown, and finds that it is not listed: she would probably dismiss Wp as not encyclopedic. However, the same argument would justify dumping into Wp every database that is out there - street zip codes, telephone directories, real estate registers, car license plates, business directories, product catalogs, IMDBs and ISBNs, asteriods, virus strains, dog pedigrees, earthquaques, hurricanes, etc.
Obviously Wp cannot aim to be The Mother of All Databases; it should only point to databases that are out there, and include articles only in cases where there is interesting human-written info that complements the database. If one must accept robot entries at all, there should be either a clear guideline as to what is acceptable and what is not, or a process of prior authorization rather than post-facto deletion.
And yes, I support deleting all robot-created US-city entries which haven't had any significant edits since their creation. Or at least trimming them to a bare minimum: "Foobar is a city in South North Virginia, USA. (Pop. 256). This is a robot-created stub etc etc."
Jorge Stolfi 13:53, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- The argument to include such entries presumably was completeness: imagine a random first-time reader who decides to test Wikipedia by asking about her hometown, and finds that it is not listed: she would probably dismiss Wp as not encyclopedic. However, the same argument would justify dumping into Wp every database that is out there - street zip codes, telephone directories, real estate registers, car license plates, business directories, product catalogs, IMDBs and ISBNs, asteriods, virus strains, dog pedigrees, earthquaques, hurricanes, etc.
- Keep. The article doesn't mention how big or small it is. BL 07:35, Apr 19, 2004 (UTC)
- The original Kaasar Vadavali article, created by an anonymous user on 20 nov 2003 (apparently only to hang Vijay Part onto it), and never updated before the VfD listing, said Kaasar Vadavali is a village located on Ghodbunder Road. It is now a part of Thane city. Recently, a new housing society called Vijay Park was set up close to this village. It comprises 30 residential buildings. The last sentence was deleted by other good souls who tried to rescue Kaasar Vadavali after seeing the VfD posting.
Notable?
[edit]Is it really notable? I think it is not. --Bhadani 13:40, 14 January 2006 (UTC)